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Leah Feiger: And there are so many people. absolutely.

Katie Drummond: As many people did, my answer is that this passes the courts and dissolves through the legal system, slowly becomes troublesome and painful, but that is because the legal system protects here, and protects Here’s what we have to do with our democracy and these checks and balances. This is kind of the last stand, right?

Leah Feiger: absolutely.

Katie Drummond: The court is our last position in terms of democracy and constitutional integrity. What we’re seeing now is the possibility that it won’t be retained. What would it look like once it gets through? I know you’re not a legal expert in addition to being a political editor at Wired, but what have you heard? What did the experts say to you during your reporting process?

Leah Feiger: There are a lot of people saying, “Look, these holds will go through. Musk and Trump will be suing them, and in the end this will end in the Supreme Court.” Many people actually comfort me with this. They said, “Yes, the courts may be very Republican ideologically, but these are trained experts who understand that these legal systems must be supported and adhered to. “I’m not confident about that.

Katie Drummond: right.

Leah Feiger: I will be totally honest. In terms of what happens next, in a sense, there is a slow march of these court systems, so even the temporary systems fell so quickly that there is plenty of room for moving fast and breaking things. I think there is. Meanwhile, from Doge’s side.

Katie Drummond: Yeah.

Leah Feiger: Many of these eggs are not crumbled. A lot of these layoffs and firing, foreclosures… It would be really hard to get them back if the court finally can say, “No, no, no, this just can’t hold it.” . And that is –

Katie Drummond: If they can say that at all.

Leah Feiger: If they can say that at all.

Katie Drummond: right.

Leah Feiger: We are now hearing all of that concern from experts. We’ve never seen anything like this.

Katie Drummond: We certainly haven’t done it. It’s not here in the US. no.

Leah Feiger: It’s not here in the US.

Katie Drummond: Well, in the meantime, we hold our breath. We will continue to work and provide you, wired listeners, wired readers, our reports, what we know. That’s our commitment to you. You can read all the reports Leah and her team have made on Wired.com. Leah, thank you for taking the time to be here with me. I know how busy you are.

Leah Feiger: Thank you very much. I love talking to you about government takeovers, Katie.

Katie Drummond: Well, now I’m going to get some granola bars from my office.

Leah Feiger: I’m about to steal it right away.

Katie Drummond: That’s our show today. Tomorrow we’ll be back on the usual roundtable episodes, all the dating app states, and a little lighthearted counter programming for you all. If you like what you heard today, follow the eerie valley and rate it on your selected podcast app. If you would like to contact someone who will show you questions, comments, or suggestions, please write to uncannyvalley@wired.com. Macro Sound’s Amar Lal mixes this episode and receives engineering support from Jake Lummus. Jordanbell is our executive producer. Conde Nast’s Global Audio Head is Chris Bannon and Katie Drummond, global editorial director at Wired. Thank you very much. good bye.