The author says to skip guilt and spend on what you like


We all want to be able to spend our money without worrying about slipping into the deep edge of our debt. The challenge is to figure out how to make it a reality.

In their new book, “Buy what you like without breaking: A personal finance guide to empowering with mindful spending plans“Frugal Friends” podcast hosts Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni will get to the basics of how to control your spending. Tip: It’s not really about following a strict budget.

They both worked on crippling debt and appeared on the other side in several lessons where they learned some lessons. Jen paid off $78,000 in debt in two years, Jill paid $60,000 and lived in the RV when she did.

I asked Jen and Jill to share some of their advice. Below is an excerpt from the conversation edited for length and clarity.

Kelly Hannon: I start the book by saying, “The real chances for us to achieve our financial goals will take some time.” Elegant?

Jill Sirianni: For most of us, we are not washed away with cash. And it will take years, if not decades, to achieve some of these big financial goals, such as debt freedom and investment in retirement.

I think we are surrounded by a bit of bamboo, as some of these clickbait articles tout “Look at this young man who has paid off his six-figure debt in six months.” If the average income earns around $60,000 a year, that’s not the average person’s experience.

It’s about easing our expectations and realizing that this is more than a marathon. You can get pit stops and rest along the way.

He writes that spending is “not what we do, who we are,” and that “expenditure is a skill.” Can you explain a little?

Jen Smith: It’s a take from my beloved Disney Channel original film, “Brink!” We have been told many times in financial media that you are a Spender or a Saber. You’re a shopping addict or spending. The way we spend our money is all our identity.

In reality, we are all spending money, and there is a lot of guilt and shame that comes with spending money on things that are “not necessary.” We remove that negative connotation. Spending is a skill and we can all learn it – and we can all make it better. When you practice and deliberate about it, you can make it better.

What is value-based spending?

Jill: What we are told should not be important, it is truly important, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us, it is important to us. I recognize it.

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